Curse

ReaverGTX · Jul 10, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

It would be great if someone gets a customized weapon (from a friend or guildy) the weapon could be recustomized. This way for example if u used a weapon and customized it for better efficiency but happen to find a better or more suitable one or u simply wanna change to something else in case u are a warrior, u could sell ur old weapon to other people. They could simply recustomize it. I think if u can sell the customized weapon to the merchant then why not be able to sell it to other players. You can sell but it is useless for them right now. Except if they buy it for the upgrade but that is not guaranteed so they won't. Of course this problem usually affects warriors, assassins and rangers cuz of the physical dmg. Spellcasters are less likely to customize their weapons. Make it more expensive than a simple customization. It's even good as an extra money sink.

My personal problem is that I managed to make myself restart my warrior only because of the name. Since a rename feature is not available right now I couldn't rename him in any means. I even tried to report my own name (LOL) but since it's not offensive nothing happened. Now I gotta start all over. Have to buy 15k plate again, and gotta buy the same sword and the same upgrades for it. My problem is with the sword, I don't wanna lose my 170k sword or even if I get 1 of the upgrades out of it I still wasted about 100k. Not even mentioning the armor and skills... I simply wanna be able to recustomize my old sword so I can use it with my new warrior. As for the rename feature, I have a feeling that I could wait forever for that......

PS: I always wonder that why aren't the green boss weapons customized? It would render them useless but still it's just not logical to me that the weapon bears the name of the owner and still it's uncustomized...

AndrewAtHome · Jul 10, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Spend more time picking a better name from the outset perhaps? Customisation is a risk, and should only be done when you have a build you're going to keep - the whole idea of customization is that no other char can use it, so the weapon fits you better and does more damage.

As for greens, that idea is just plain silly. The weapon has a custom design, but hell, maybe the bosses aren't daft enough to customise their uber weapons, incase..umm... they want to change their name? ;-)

lyra_song · Jul 10, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Customizing is +20% damage.

The cost of such a high damage increase is that weapons is PERMANENTLY for that character only.

-.- If we were allowed to recustomize, then whats the point?

This is utterly a propestrous idea. You invested that money into the weapon for yourself. You cant just get a refund because you changed your mind on something like that.

If the sword was truly so valuable and you wanted to save it for later, you shouldnt have customized it.

Across The Battle · Jul 10, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Hasn't this topic been beaten to death already?
Make better decisions, or live with your current ones..thats all.

It would simply defeat the point of customization, why not just add +20% dmg to everything?

Navaros · Jul 10, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Given that PVP characters do indeed get +20% DMG added to everything, I think that makes a valid case for allowing re-customization.

It already costs way too much to make a PVE char be PVP ready. No need to add further to that cost by shafting PVE chars on the customization front too.

/signed

Kai Nui · Jul 10, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

No, unsigned, here's why:

I'm too nice and I would lend my green items away to people who needed to use them temporarily and never get them back. Since they're customized to my character and I'm too paranoid to give away off hands, I'm safe from... myself.

/signed...?

Carinae · Jul 10, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

If we were allowed to recustomize, then whats the point?

False arguement. The point is to get the 20% damage bonus, not to prevent resale. That's the reason people customize.

The 20% bonus should cost 10K+ but weapons could be recustomized.

/signed

lyra_song · Jul 10, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

False arguement. The point is to get the 20% damage bonus, not to prevent resale. That's the reason people customize.

The 20% bonus should cost 10K+ but weapons could be recustomized.

/signed

Ok...so you want the 20% customization bonus to cost 10k?!

The point of customizing IS to get the 20% bonus.

The cost of it that it becomes permanently attached. Thats why customizing is SOOO cheap.

If you raised it to 10k, how do all those newbies in pre-searing afford it?

I remember when i first played i customized my crap weapons because it was the only thing i could afford to make my damage stronger.

I never said the point of it was to prevent resale. -.o The reason i emphasized the nature of resale etc is because of the reason this was posted by the OP seems to be about vanity.

Dont bring up PvE/PvP equality, Pve has way more advantages over PvP chars, not just in looking good but having more weapon slots, more armor options on the fly, etc.

bilateralrope · Jul 10, 2006, 05:59 AM // 05:59

/unsigned

Customisation is there to force you to chose between trading the weapon, and using it for yourself. If you change your mind later, too bad.

If you want to talk about recustomisation, then you might as well just for the +20% damage to be always there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

It already costs way too much to make a PVE char be PVP ready. No need to add further to that cost by shafting PVE chars on the customization front too.

Except that you can get max stat weapons cheaply from crafters and collectors, and those skins are pretty much unsellable as it is. Since only the stats matter for making a character PvP ready allowing decustomisation wouldn't reduce those costs anyway.

xiao1985 · Jul 10, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

/not signed

defeates the purpose of customisation...
also it makes >100k trade less safe

ReaverGTX · Jul 10, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

I was only kidding about the greens LOL. Still, u are wrong about the special/unique design on the green weapons. They are anything but unique since u can get the same skins in the game by hunting chests or monsters. Only the name is unique, but what for? To be able to separate the weapon when ppl start to spam what weapons they have equiped. To be able to brag about it. Though I don't really care that much... It's simply interesting.

As for the recustomization idea, yes... it might be a little bit too much. But how would u separate ppl who start over just cuz their name and ppl who simply wanna get rid of their weapon by selling it. True, it defeats the purpose of customization, but it wouldn't be unfair against players who start over cuz of the name. And if you tell me I have to live with my decisions then all I can say is: decisions can be changed...

BTW when I started my first char, I would have never even guessed that I would start more than 1 char. Thx to other RPG games I have always played with 1 char, though those were not MMORPGs (or COORPGs). This fight about renaming ur chars is endless between players who want to rename their char and players who are satisfied with their names. Though I just can't figure out what "satisfied" players have against it. Wouldn't change ur gameplay nor experience. But this is another issue...

Sjeng · Jul 10, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

The 20% bonus should cost 10K+ but weapons could be recustomized.

/signed

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra song

Ok...so you want the 20% customization bonus to cost 10k?!

The point of customizing IS to get the 20% bonus.

The cost of it that it becomes permanently attached. Thats why customizing is SOOO cheap.

You're using your own arguments against eachother... If you know what I mean. It's either:
- make customizing really expensive, 20% is after all a big bonus, but don't make it permanent, i.e. recustomizable. OR:
- leave it like it is, making customization cheap, but you can't recustomize.

I think both are sound ideas.

Quote:

If you raised it to 10k, how do all those newbies in pre-searing afford it?

That's the only reason I'd say /not signed.

Bale_Shadowscar · Jul 10, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

Given that PVP characters do indeed get +20% DMG added to everything, I think that makes a valid case for allowing re-customization.

It already costs way too much to make a PVE char be PVP ready. No need to add further to that cost by shafting PVE chars on the customization front too.

/signed

Ever heard of Collector weapons?

majoho · Jul 10, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

no, that's just silly

Defiant · Jul 10, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Wouldn't it make sense to keep the cost of customization the same (10g), but have a weaponsmith late in the game that could perform an "uncustomization" for 15 - 25k? That way if you needed to "uncustomized" an weapon you would take a lost in profits in selling it, but you would save money if you were uncustomizing it so you can move it to another character on your account.

lyra_song · Jul 10, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defiant

Wouldn't it make sense to keep the cost of customization the same (10g), but have a weaponsmith late in the game that could perform an "uncustomization" for 15 - 25k? That way if you needed to "uncustomized" an weapon you would take a lost in profits in selling it, but you would save money if you were uncustomizing it so you can move it to another character on your account.

Now this i DEFINITELY approve of!!!

Good input Defiant

Now why didnt i think of that >.<;;